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    • Pauldalg
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    F1 - Application of penalties

    Aug 27, 2008 12:10 PM

    Oh, come on now!

    What penalty would McLaren have received for letting one of their drivers out into the path of a full speed car in the pit lane? Massa didn't gain an advantage, that's clear, and thoroughly deserved to win (and in Budapest), but it could have been a disaster if those cars collided. Imagine further back the pitlane when the cars could have speared into the densely populated garages!

    I know the rules say it's the driver's responsibility, but clearly it's down to the teams to indicate when it's safe to leave the pit box. Ferrari should have been fined, and fined heavily with some points deducted from the constructor's championship (with no penalty on Massa who did a good job to avoid an accident). The excuse that no harm was done doesn't wash with me, the potential was horrific, and I think they were obviously desperate to get Massa out in front of Vettel as the gap to Hamilton was reduced.

    Smacks of the issue in Germany when Raikonnen wasn't black flagged despite have an exhaust hanging off and flapping in the wind.

  • Re: F1 - Application of penalties

    Aug 27, 2008 9:11 PM

    It does seem like Ferrari does get away with things that McLaren would be penalised for.

    As a side issue, what do people think of the new venue (Valencia)? For what it's worth I like th look of the track etc. but it provided a very boring race.

    Caeser ruled with an iron hand, then with a wooden foot and finally with a piece of string.
  • Re: F1 - Application of penalties

    Aug 28, 2008 8:28 AM

    Wise words from all.

    I can only imagine that the steward's decisions and FIA would become even more pro-Ferrari if Jean Todt takes over the FIA Presidency.

    Regarding Valencia... at least the drivers enjoyed it, I supposed. I was so bored with it I even turned over to watch the Olympic closing ceremony.

    Watching those Team GB guys/gals during the Olympics has put me off F1 and and football a bit really. They achieve greatness while earning sod all whereas F1 and football is full of pre-Madonnas and posers. I'm sure this is temporary....

    • TegTypeR
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    Re: F1 - Application of penalties

    Aug 28, 2008 9:01 AM

    I don't know what it was like as a drivers track, but from what we saw on the TV, it looks fast and sweeping, but a little bland.  Possibly a little to new age Bernie polished.

    Read my motoring and car related diatribe at.........

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    • Ubizzle
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    Re: F1 - Application of penalties

    Aug 28, 2008 11:21 AM

     1 - It's been clear for a long time now that the bias is towards Ferrari. When McLaren had their rear-brake pedal outlawed, despite it earlier being allowed to race. Who complained? You guessed it, Ferrari.

    2 - I also don't believe putting Jean Todt in power will help this in any way. It'd be like putting Martin Whitmarsh in, or Pat Symonds. 

    3 - The circuit looked good, but the race was terrible. Because of the field spread due to the design, there was nothing to keep the cars bunched up, allowing overtaking to happen. I think we'll have to wait until next year to really see if it's a good track to watch, but i turned my TV off wih 20laps to go, something i don't do unless my favourite drivers spin out.

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